The Jewish Messiah Part I

Preface, continuing from my facebook conversation on Christianity. MB continues with

this statement

 The Jewish version of Messiah is very simple and is not something very mystic like 

what the Christian proclaimed.

• MB The Jewish messiah must be from the line of King David, is in the Tanach. 

   He is a human being like you and me, in literal form, will old and eventually die. 

  This is the messiah that originally supposed to be. Up until today – 

  the genealogy of King David is still recorded down.
  
  The Christians New Testament tried to link Jesus to King David. On one book, it 

  says he is from "David". On the other book in the NT, it says he is not from David?? 

  Whatever, Christians claimed that Jesus born from a virgin and is pregnant by a 

  holy spirit, not a human. All these disqualified to be the messiah anyway – no 

  matter how they wrote the genealogy of Jesus in the NT.
  
  The Christians are the anti-messiah (or anti christ, in their version/language) 

  because \they don’t recognize a man to be the messiah. The Christianity version 

  of messiah is very far from the Torah – Tanach which suppose to be.
  
  They have their mystical version. The Christianity messiah is jesus and he will 

  come back the 2nd time - can somehow fly down from sky, one leg touch the 

  ground, and then elevate up hanging half way in the sky.
  
  Any human that is not jesus (etc: a person line from King David) they will 

   regard as a false messiah and they (christian) will “help” the Jews remove 

  him. The Jews wanting to keep him, and they (christian) want to remove him. 

  Who is the anti – messiah? Is very clear.

  
  
• MB Christianity is placing a very dangerous bid to G-d when comes to 

  messianic age. Their believe is – “The Jews never repent, they don’t recognize 

  jesus as messiah, with that, Israel is in doom and problems with neighbors.

  If they accept jesus, wooo waaaaooo…..the world will be in peace.”
  
  From time to time, G-d is testing people to see if you believe him or believe a 

  human being. There are many many messiahs in the Tanach. Some are good and 

  some are really bad. There are good messiahs and there are bad messiahs.
  
  See:
  
  Deu 13:1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and 

  announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder,
  
  Deu 13:2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, 

  "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them,"
  
  Deu 13:3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD 

  your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and 

  with all your soul.
  
  Deu 13:4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. 

  Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.
  
  Deu 13:5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached 

   rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and 

  redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way 

  the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from 

  among you.

  
  
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  Don Tan M, To which i say, what is the benchmark, of who the Messiah is ?
  
  'The Jewish messiah must be from the line of King David, is in the Tanach. He

   is a human being like you and me, in literal form, will old and eventually die. 

  This is the messiah that originally supposed to be. Up until today – 
  the genealogy of King David is still recorded down'
  
  Yeshua's pedigree, I agree, is disputed. No need to argue back and forth
  about that topic. It's been, being, and continues to be debated.
  
  Secondly, the nature of the Messiah. I said, is he a mere man ? If he is the
  'Suffering Messiah' in Isaiah 53
  
  The Messiac will be the literal arm of Adonai
  Adonai יְהוָ֖ה ū·zə·rō·w·a‘ וּזְר֥וֹעַ ~ Isaiah 53
  
  Deu 13 i presume, refers to false prophets. Does HaShem allow false prophets, 

  to raise the dead ? How about feed 5 thousand ? How about knowing personal 

  history about peoples lives ? What would you consider as an except-able 

  benchmark ?
  
  Interestingly, in my discussions with Muslims on the 'Prophet' The
  Jews in Yathrib did the absolute opposite. They ask for proof i.e.
  signs or wonders, to which, he replied that he was only a plain warner
  surah 29:50
  
  Assume, i 've got it all wrong and all your assumptions are correct. Rabbi
  David Kimhi who wrote the Hebrew Gammatria is a believer in Micah's
  prophecy
  
  מיכה / Micah 5:2: But you, Beit-Lechem Efratah
  
  (Bethlehem Ephratah), Being small among the clans of
  
  Yehudah (Judah), Out of you one will come forth to me
  
  that is to be ruler in Yisra'el (Israel); Whose goings
  
  forth are from of old, from everlasting.
  
  I was in Bethlehem Ephratah. Soon to be a Palestinian only population,
  as Christian populations dwindle. If a Palestinian Messiah arises that can
  prove his pedigree, will you accept it ? You said Christianity is placing a
  dangerous bid on G-d. Are you sure, it's not, the other way around. Israel 

  is surrounded by 1.5 billion of this other proclaimed Abrahamic faith who
  actually wants to drive the Jews into the sea. Future events will happen
  as HaShem wills it, whether, we like it or not