Remembering the Shabbat Part III

• MDE Don do you know the first 2 commandments? How about the commandment to keep the Sabbath? Keep it Holy? Sunday is NOT the sabbath. So have you ever asked is it okay to change what the Great I Am commands?

  
  
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  Don Tan M, We can read the Tanakh in two ways, literally or metaphorically. I take it you meant that the Shabbat has to be the Saturday i.e. on the first day. That day began on Saturday. So Hashem meant that, not rest on a 'seventh day'.
  
  Ok, i presume, i am wrong. Here's my literal take on who Hashem is.
  
  Hashem is Yahweh
  Hashem has a Spirit, the Ruah Hakodesh
  Hashem sends/ or will send a Messiac.
  
  The Messiac will be the literal arm of Adonai
  Adonai יְהוָ֖ה ū·zə·rō·w·a‘ וּזְר֥וֹעַ ~ Isaiah 53
  
  What is the character of the Messiac, is he a mere man, or a reflection of
  Adonai.....

  
  
• MDE Don I don't read the Torah as a fairy tale. It's very easy to understand. I'm not sure where you are getting that Saturday is the 1st day of the week? The fact that Shabbat is from sundown Friday night till sundown Saturday night means you observe it. You keep it Holy. Set apart. You don't work. Don't buy or sell and definitely don't change the day to suit your wim. The. Jewish messiah will just be a man. Not a god. He will have a human daddy that is a direct descendant of King David and Solomon. That means his daddy will be a man...human sperm donor that makes him from the tribe of Judah. Xianity tries to sell the genealogy of their dude but forgot that if he didn't have a human daddy from the tribe of Judah it instantly disqualifies him!
  This post is about the sabbath. The fact that Xianity literally throws out all of the commandments makes it very clear that it's idiology is pagan to the core!

  
  
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  Don Tan M, Read genesis again. Hashem said six days of work, one day of rest. He called the day of rest Shabbat. That's the literal explanation. So does the literal fourth commandment mean 'sundown Friday night till sundown Saturday night' Did Hashem say that ? Where ? What is then meant by the 'Arm of the Lord' ? Isaiah 53......

  
  
• MDE So you believe Monday is the first day of the week?

  
  
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  Don Tan No, not really. I just don't think Hashem is that Legalistic. I was at Shabbat a while ago at Beth Israel Synagogue in Edmonton. In rememberance of my Uncle Manashe.

  
  
• MDE Don try reading a Hebrew Torah. Your bible is not true. It is a very bad purposefully mistranslation. So I just pointed out a basic qualification for the Jewish messiah must be from the tribe of Judah. You guy wasn't from the tribe of Judah. Wasn't from any tribe. He wasn't the Jewish messiah. By the way...Isaiah has nothing to do with the Jewish messiah. Try reading the entire book of Isaiah and in context.

  
  
• MDE It's not about legalism. It's a book of life. You just don't get to tell the Great I Am what you want and that what He gave is wrong. These are commandments not suggestions.

  
  
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  Don Tan M, I appreciate your candid thoughts and reasons. It just seems to me that even-though you called it a Book of Life. It's being treated like the Book of Law when it comes to the Shabbat. Shalom...

  
  
• MDE Don but how is a problem if the Creator said it was Friday night to Saturday night and not Sunday. Doesn't that make it you putting your own ideas ahead of HaShem??

  
  
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  Don Tan Did HaShem say that' Friday night to Saturday evening', or was that a Rabbinical tradition ? The Creator called it a day of rest the Shabbat שבת
  We are not talking about the Talmud here, but the Tanakh, right ? How am i putting my ideas ahead of HaShem. I don't have a problem if that was the baseline i.e. Rabbi's agreed that was the day chosen as to honour the Shabbat. Tradition suddenly became, HaShem said it ? Yeshua was very direct to the Pharisees
  
  39“You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me! 40Yet you refuse to come to me to receive this life. ~ John 5
  
  A lot has been debated about his pedigree. Evidence provided from both sides of the fence. Noted Rabbi Tovia Singer may not believe that Isaiah 53 talks about the suffering Messiac, but he wasn't the first one. Yeshua
  himself went, one on one, with the Rabbinical Authority i.e. Nicodemus
  
  10Jesus replied, “You are a respected Jewish teacher, and yet you don’t understand these things? 11I assure you, we tell you what we know and have seen, and yet you won’t believe our testimony. 12But if you don’t believe me when I tell you about earthly things, how can you possibly believe if I tell you about heavenly things? 13No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven. 14And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.f ~ John 3
  
  I'd like to reveal some more revelation, lest i be accused of sorcery... but say go on your knees and ask HaShem himself to reveal his truth to you
  
  Shalom