The Scandal of Christianity, Myth or Truth ? Part III

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  MB The nature of blood spread on the door to ward of the Angel of Death and the nature where jesus instructed his followers to eat his meat and drink his blood in remembrance of him is way way way difference.
  
  jesus instructed his followers to EAT his meat and DRINK HIS BLOOD in REMEMBERENCE of him (only him because he claimed to be god) is sorcery and demonic. And pure idolatrize to the max. Idoltarization has many forms, most not required of drinking blood - but this foo is way extra ordinary. You have to eat his meat too. Pure demon.
  
  When the Jews spread the blood of the lamb on the door posts that is actually a celebration (for Jews) and mocking of the Pharaoh goddess. Lamb was one of the Egyption goddes. Cat too. When G-d instructed them to do it this way, this is not idolatrize to someone else (etc: moses or others figures) but to follow HIS instruction.
  
  Jews don't eat the blood on the door posts or do any symbolical things to represent blood and drink it for protection or to be saved.

  
  

  
• MB "Can a false prophet raise the dead ?"
  
  Pharoah magician able to performed similar "miracles" as G-d had performed.
  
  "Yeshua raised more than one, repeatedly."
  
  So? Ezekiel raised group of them. So? Do the Jews worship Ezekiel like jesus? No. Jesus raised more than one, so? A common thing, not surprise. Do you know in the ancient time a Rabbi raised a Golem to fight the enemies of Israel? That is why we have a geographical place in Israel called Golem - is in the map now this name - Golem.
  
  So? Do the Jews worship this Rabbi who raised the Golem? No. So, why jesus is so different even he "raised" himself? Where is him? According to NT, he appeared, than disappeared. Smell like 10 days old fish to me.
  
  "Is HaShem's Ruach not part of HaShem. If the Messiah is the 'Arm of the Lord' in Isaiah 53, is that not part of HaShem."
  
  I did not say Isa 53 referring to a person (etc: messiah). Do not change my words. Isa 53 is referring to a nation called Israel.
  
  Haha...don't tried to link this to jesus. As I said before Isa 53 is one of the 4 servant songs. Christianity can't link the rest of the 3 to jesus, with that - they have no choice but to link only this, too bad.

  
  
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  MB Isa 52: 13-15 -
  
  Isaiah 52:13
  
  "Indeed, my servant shall prosper, be exalted and raised to great heights."
  
  Isaiah identifies the servant multiple times as being Israel (by NAME – ISRAEL) from previous chapters. How can it be suddenly switch to a particular person – etc: jesus?
  
  Previous chapters:
  Isaiah 41:8, "But you, Israel, My servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, seed of Abraham my friend"
  
  Isaiah 44:1 "But hear, now, O Jacob My servant, Israel whom I have chosen!"
  
  Isaiah 44:21 "Remember these things, O Jacob for you, O Israel, are My servant"
  
  Isaiah 49:3 "And he said to me, "You are My servant, Israel in whom I glory.""
  
  Isaiah 52:14
  
  “So marred was his appearance, unlike that of a man, his form, beyond human semblance”
  
  Even though Jesus was whipped and crucified, his form was not marred beyond human semblance. He still resembled a human being, and his form was still like that of a man. Jesus doesn't fit.
  
  Isaiah 52:15
  
  “so he will sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand.”
  
  This verse tells us explicitly that it is the nations of the world, the gentiles, who are doing the talking in Isaiah 53 (etc: by forcefully claiming that jesus fit Isa 53 in all churches (this is called doing the talking) all over the world). See, also, Micah 7:12-17, which speaks of the nations’ astonishment when the Jewish people again blossom in the Messianic age.

  
  
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  Don Tan A Crown of Thorns were for decoration, and when he perspired blood (hematedrosis) luke 22:44 it didn't do anything to his appearance. I don't have to link any passages to Yeshua. Clearly, its talking about someone. Do you even know, or even see, what you are quoting?
  
  Isaiah 44:8,1,21 49:3
  
  Is HaShem talking about ISRAEL the Nation or Israel (Jacob). Oh ya, i
  know what your answer is going to be. Rabbinical SOP (Standard Operating Procedure). My interpretation is wrong......
  
  'and God saith to him, 'Thy name is Jacob: thy name is no more called Jacob, but Israel is thy name;' and He calleth his name Israel.'
  
  ~ Genesis 35:10

The Scandal of Christianity, Myth or Truth ? Part II

Continuing from the previous segment. I can see how MB's narrative very much aligns
with rabbinical sources.

MB "Isaiah is definitely not talking about a servant nation,..."

Of course i disagree Isa 53 is talking about jesus. I already stated very clearly in my previous posts line by line intepretation of Isa 53. Isa 53 is one of the 4 servant songs, and all these 4 servant songs stated very clearly that it is refering to the Jewish Nation - Israel.

Why Christianity ignoring 3 servant songs that linked together and select only 1 (favorite-ly) to read? And why Christianity not reading their bible in Hebrew language?

And Christians (a religion that came in the later time) scholars purposefully pick only 1 (only Isa 53) out of this 4 servant songs to link to jesus - this is purely cherry pick and plug. They know the rest of the 3 songs cannot matched with whatsoever. Scholars should know the texts much more better than us. This is clearly purposeful.

Even without the translation, Isa 53:8 cleary stated "they were". Is the words "they were" an individual? Of course not. A common sense would know, but Christinity never admit their wrong.

Here is Isa 53:8 - "He was released from captivity and judgment; who could have imagined such a generation? For he was removed from the land of the living; because of my people's sin they (the Jews) were afflicted."

The Hebrew word for “they were” (lamoh – וֹמָל) always refers to a group, never to an individual. (see for example, Psalms 99:7)

".....he nation and definitely not in the plural in Isaiah 7 verse 14"

Isa 7:14 is a historical reading/fact. This verse is Isaiah himself told (this Isa 7:14) to King Ahaz because Ahaz was an evil king, God would continue to protect Jerusalem in the merit of his righteous predecessors.

When Ahaz ignores Isaiah’s warning the prophet tells him to request a sign from God. After Ahaz refuses this offer, Isaiah informs him that God will give him a sign in spite of his stubbornness.

This is a historical knowledge. This has nothing to do with jesus. In fact, as you said, Christianity mistranslate the word “virgin” as well. This verse definitely not about jesus, is just a pure cherry pick by Christianity.

MB Blood, blood, blood oh blood blood blood – "wine and bread as metaphor in remembrance of his crucifixion.”

Symbolic or real (blood) alike – this is sorcery.

Which religions on earth wanting his followers to do such act? Drink blood (wine) and eat his meat in remembrance of him? Asian gang mafia would do that by submitting themselves to Chinese goddess and drink chicken blood in front of a tomb to form a brotherhood' (gang related brotherhood').

After drinking those they felt ecstatic, very alert and "powerful", super energetic – likewise to Christians after communion service, they felt “new” or high spirit/or high – or holy spirit touched by god – this is dangerous and demonic.

The Torah is very clear – do not practice sorcery (symbolic or real blood alike because blood contain life force).

This Torah verse specifically indicated blood and sorcery together.

Leviticus 19:26 "'Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it. "'Do not practice divination or seek omens.”

When Lev 19:26 specifically link/indicating “blood” and “'Do not practice divination or seek omens” in one verse together – this is already telling that do NOT practice sorcery. Why jesus done that and instructed all his followers to do the same?

“Yeshua however is not a mere man.”

Jesus definitely not G-d either because Torah/Tanach said that G-d cannot be a man.

"I am G-d, and not man" Hosea 11:9.

"G-d is not a man" I Samuel 15:29.

"G-d is not a man" Bamidbar / Numbers 23:19.

And let's not forget "I HaShem do not change" Malachai 3:6.

"Before Me no god was formed, nor will there be one after Me. I, even I, am HaShem, and besides Me there is no Savior.” Isaiah 43:11.

“I am the first and I am the last; apart from Me there is no G-d!" Isaiah 44:6

"I am HaShem, and there is no other; besides Me there is no G-d" Isaiah 45:5

"Remember the first things of old, that I am G-d and there is no other; I am G-d and there is none like Me." Isaiah 46:9.

*****Bonus: And definitely Christianity claimed that jesus did not fulfill and he will need to comeback the 2nd time to finish it which contradict again number 23:19 from Revelation in NT:

Numbers 23:19 – “God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?”

So, let alone be him.

Don Tan Can a false prophet raise the dead ? You never answered that. Does HaShem give that power to sorcerers. Yeshua raised more than one, repeatedly. I already said Messiah is not a mere man. Is HaShem's Ruach not part of HaShem. If the Messiah is the 'Arm of the Lord' in Isaiah 53, is that not part of HaShem.

13 Hinei, Avdi [Moshiach, see Zecharyah 3:8] shall act wisely, he shall be raised and be lifted up, and be highly exalted.

14 As rabbim (many) were appalled at thee [Moshiach]; his appearance was so disfigured more than any man, and his form more than the bnei adam;

15 So yazzeh Goyim rabbim (he [Moshiach] will sprinkle many nations); the melachim (kings) shall shut their mouths because of him; for that which had not been told them shall they see; and of that which they had not heard shall they have binah (understanding).

~ Isaiah 52

What is verse 13 and 14 talking about ? Israel as a whole, are you kidding me ?

What was done in the sader meal at passover according to exodus. Wasn't there Blood spread on the door to ward of the Angel of Death ?
Were the Hebrews practicing sorcery in that instance ? It sure looks like
it according to the verses you are spewing at me without looking at context.

'Symbolic or real (blood) alike – this is sorcery.' blood, blood, blood,
lots of it ...

7 And they shall take of the dahm, and strike it upon the two mezuzot (doorposts) and on the mashkof (lintel) of the batim (houses), wherein they shall eat it. ~ Exodus 12:7

The Scandal of Christianity, Myth or Truth ? Part I

Preface

Continuing with the narrative that the gospel is a myth. My acquaintance MB
purports that Christianity is a myth. Here, he provides a compelling narrative
to support his paradigm

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  MB make the lie big - jesus is god
  
  make it simple - you believe him = you are save
  
  keep saying it - attend weekly church , don't miss any and don't be late. 

  Attend small groups. eventually they will believe it - here you go, mission 

  accomplished.

  
  
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  Don Tan Really ? Where did you read that ?
  
  "Not everyone who calls out to me, 'Lord! Lord!' will enter the Kingdom 

  of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will 

   enter. ~ Matthew 7:21
  
  When HaShem offers a gift he expects you to receive it with an open heart, 

  not use it as a fire insurance. Do you really understand the huge price Yeshua

  paid at the Cross for the Remission of Sins ...... ?

  
  
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  MB This "gift" is very dangerous and very demonic. Jesus never paid at the 

  cross for the remission of sins. This is assumption by Christianity. G-d 

  prohibited human sacrificial, and human sacrificial is barbaric. When 
  Christianity claimed that this is the remission, they are assuming and misused
  of the text. Torah also clearly stated that drinking of blood is prohibited because
  it contains life force. Those who practice sorcerer by using blood should be cut 
  off from it.Etc: Jesus in Matthew instructed their disciples to drink his blood and
  eat his meat as remembrance of him before crucifixion. This is cult like. If jesus 
  really know the Torah he would not have done that.
  
  Many conventional sorcerers love to used blood to drag/force power in the 

  spiritual realms - this included the Roman ritual of exorcism by using jesus 

  blood (metaphorical, etc: they used grape wine) to "cast" away demon. This

  also included the Tao talisman where they used chicken blood to drawn onto

   the yellow paper (see this:http://taoist-sorcery.blogspot.com/.../taoist-fox-goddess...)
  
  When Christianity drink blood (etc: representable, red grape wine for example) 

  on the monthly communion in remembrance of him (idol), and eat his meat 

  (etc: bisket) - this is cult like.
  
  According to Tanach, sin remission or sacrifice offering must redeem prior to

   sacrifice, not after. Even Christianity think that a man (etc:jesus) is qualify for 

  sin cleansing, that is only prior, not after. So, those who accept jesus for 2000 

  years after his death, their sins never been cleansed. Too bad.
  
  On top of that, the Tanach is clear that a man cannot die for another man sin. 

  See Psalm 49:7 "No one can redeem the life of another or give to God a 
  ransomfor them."

  
  

  TAOIST SORCERY: Taoist Fox Goddess Talismans - Hu Xian Talisman (狐仙符)

  taoist-sorcery.blogspot.com

  
  
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  Don Tan Firstly, Yeshua used wine and bread as a metaphor for his blood and 
  body. This is in remembrance of his crucifixion. He did not ask to be sacrificed. 
  The difference is, he was put to death , for sorcery by the Rabbinical Authority, 
  and for being an instigator against Caesar. A crime he did not commit.
  
  I said, Messiah is not a mere man (Isaiah 53). You disagree. i keep reading the 

  context of Isaiah over and over. I don't see anything else.
  
  14. Therefore, the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign; behold, the young 
  woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name 
  Immanuel. ~ Isaiah 7
  
  יד. לָכֵן יִתֵּן אֲדֹנָי הוּא לָכֶם אוֹת הִנֵּה הָעַלְמָה הָרָה וְיֹלֶדֶת בֵּן וְקָרָאת שְׁמוֹ עִמָּנוּ אֵל:
  
  HaAlma young woman i.e. virgin (disputed by scholars). Even my Hebrew 
  University Prof. flip flops over the term Elohim. Elohim is a plural term for 
  HaShem.
  
  Isaiah is definitely not talking about a servant nation, he nation and definitely 
  not in the plural in Isaiah 7 verse 14
  
  Certainly, no Man can die for another Man's Sin. Psalm 49:7. Yeshua 
  however is not a mere man. If Elisha and Elijah raised the dead. I asked if
  Yeshua a sorcerer, who raise the dead multiple times, is a false prophet.
  If so, does HaShem allow false prophets to raise the dead ?
  
  Since you like metaphors. I will give you one
  
  Look, this is not the IRS (HaShems Court). Whereby, when there is a dispute, 
  in the interpretation of the law. The interpretation of the governments tax 
  official (Rabbinical Authority) takes precedent over, the defense's tax lawyer

   (Christian Interpretation). This is, one on one, with HaShem on the Day of 

  Judgement. I'm not worried, that i'm wrong. I've already received my revelation

  ~ Acts 2:17

  
  
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  Don Tan I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh: and your sons and daughters will 

  prophesy, your old men will dream dreams and your bochrim will see visions":

  ~ Yoel 3:1