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This Blog was created as a dialog and to create a conversation about Jesus.
Who is Jesus? Why is he the Messiah? What do Christians believe ?
It is my hope to discover the True Jesus. It was Jesus who said "Do not be afraid; only believe" ~ Mark 5:36 NKJV
The Tuareg Peoples are a nomadic tribe (Niger, Mali, Algeria and Libya) of North Africa. As a whole, 99.9% of the population are Muslim. The Mystery of the Tuareg is that many of their symbols i.e. jewelry and symbols are Christian in nature. They however, seem oblivious, to that fact. Antropologists cannot identify the period in history that coincided with Christian assimilation into the Tuareg's.
Sometime ago, i was introduced to a Tuareg Leader. I would like to share his story. For his anonymity. I will refer to my friend as 'Mo'. Mo grew up as a nomadic Tuareg, a Muslim and was enlisted in Gaddafi's army. He rose through the ranks and was involved in the civil war between the various tribes. As a trained soldier, he witnessed the shedding of blood and even held a dying comrade in his arms.
In a dream, Yeshua revealed himself to him. Confusion and unbelief was his first reaction. Why would a Prophet of God of lesser status than the 'Prophet' of Islam reveal himself. Sometime
later Yeshua convicted his heart and he became his follower. He had
approached some Missionaries and requested that he be baptized. How do i
know Mo?
A Sister in Yeshua. I'll call her 'Siti' for anonymity also had a vision to meet
a man in Niger. Siti felt the calling to go to Niger, to Abalak. Yeshua has a plan for the Tuareg Nation. He has not forgotten them even if they have forgotten him. Mo continues his mission to spread the name of Yeshua . It was Yeshua that approached him in the midst of the civil wars in North Africa. Yeshua has not forgotten the Tuaregs. The symbols they wear around their necks are a reminder that the Nation of Tuareg are his.
Dr Mahathir on his Blog Chedet bemoans the fact that places like
Guantanamo exist and deaths of Muslims occur far too frequently. I share
his dismay that the world is an Evil place. I differ, however, as to
causality.
I want to highlight a gruesome picture of a crucified man. The reason is, crucifixions in
roman
times, represent death by humiliation. This person was crucified as a
collaborator in Yemen by an Islamist Group (See
http://afrahnasser.blogspot.de/2012/02/who-are-ansar-al-sharia.html).
There
is also a hoax going around the internet that this person was murdered
for converting from Islam to Christianity. Perhaps, Islamists will say
that he was murdered by justification as a collaborator of the enemy.
I believe this verse in the quran rightly depicts what this person apparently deserved
The just retribution for those
who fight GOD and His messenger, and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed,
or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides,
or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life,
then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter. ~ Surah 5:33
In my conversations with Muslims on the Internet. Muslims often retort
that the 'Prophet' pbuh himself received the final revelation from allah
and i suppose continues the message Jesus wanted to share with the
world. What i would like to know is would Jesus have approved of the
punishments i.e. horrendous crimes per being ' killed, or crucified, or
to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides,
or to be banished from the land'. Is this what God wants .
As news of continued sectarian violence increase between Muslims, the West and Israel will be blamed. My question is? Did this person deserve to be humiliated in death?
Jesus does say this explicitly in Matthew 7
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.14 Because[a] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
The last 3 replies to Iskandar will be quick and painless. I hope
9-But people who understand the truth of Christianity, its history
and its religious texts will know better.Most of the people who
converted to Islam from Christianity happen to be the ones learned in
Christianity,like priests and pastors.They know that Islam is just a
continuation of Christianity,that Jesus also came to preach the one true
God just as Abraham,Moses and the other prophets all had come to do.
Claiming Islam is from Christianity is in by itself a compliment to Christianity.
A Counterfeit is the greatest complement one can give to Yeshua the Christ. Let them
(the converted), speak before Yeshua themselves on the day of judgement.Yeshua calls
for repentance and that their veils maybe lifted.
10-The trinity ‘one in three,three in one’ is one strange innovation
by Paul that has no clear biblical support let alone logical
support.Watch the priest fumble as they try to explain the concept..Its
like the orange there are three things the skin,the flesh and the
seed,or its like the egg it has the shell,the white and the york..this
is how they try to explain their God!!!And when you start questioning
more and they will start excusing themselves immediately.Let me assure
you Dtan you don’t want to see your priests ‘sweat’ as they explain the
trinity.
No sweat bro, i have explained the Trinity in discussion and will continue to provide as much resource as i can as to this topic.
11-You are just lucky the Muslims had been confused by their
‘church’,that is all.But dtan it won’t be forever.So make hay while the
sunshine bro..
The 'Prophet' himself is the cause of confusion. See 'Jesus Prophet or Son of God'
It is my pleasure to continue the conversation with Iskandar. Please don't take any of my
statementspersonally.
4-Once we can come out of the control of our ‘ medieval church’,which
we will eventually, let me assure you how it is ready to do what it has
delivered to mankind before.The principles behind the religion of the
true God is far too superior for any man made religion with strange God
concepts can ever hope to match.
I hope, perhaps Islam will somehow metamorphose from a 'medieval church' to a 'true God'
religion before a mega-conflict occurs in the middle-east.
St Paul said ' 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.~ Galatians 5.
Islam's implied Law Consciousness and disputes over the hadith as seen on Dr. Mahathirs Blog, i think, is why Shiite's are murdering Sunnis, and vice-verse.
I think i know where you are going with the 'strange God concepts' remark. You are implying that Islam is superior in its Mono-theistic Concept of Allah and the concept of 'Shirk' (Idolatory). Let me ask you this question. Do you believe that in your heart or did your Ulama, Quran or Islamic commentary tell you what to believe? If God is devoid of complexity, this raises other issues. Let me demonstrate the corollary. If God is one of one. How does he communicate directly to Abraham eg.
17 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless. 2 And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly.” ~ Genesis 17
to Moses eg.
14 God replied to Moses, "I Am Who I Am. Say this to the people of Israel: I Am has sent me to you." ~ Exodus 3
while in the meantime. Who is in Heaven seated at the throne commanding the Angels, Universe, etc,etc,etc while this is taking place. I did not read any Bible commentary
nor did i ask my Pastor to get this revelation.
There is however, a creature. You know who it is, that is, purely a mono-theistic being. If pure
mono-theism is the criteria of who you Worship. You are, threading, on dangerous ground.
5-The ugly side of Islam now is due to this corruption that most
indoctrinated Muslims will not see and instead want to keep it going
forever for their salvation.This is what indoctrination is supposed do
to people.
This is what i know of Islam from its earliest inception and continue to learn more. The 'Prophet' pbuh made many praiseworthy statements. He also killed a lot of tribes and made a lot of 'if you submit or else statements' to the detriment of Jews and Christians in the Quran. It can be said, similarly of God in the Old Testament. Those cultures were wiped out. One can
debate the efficacy or the morality in another debate. So, the Quran specifically targets Jews and Christians in this age for judgement. There is no mention of Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists etc being marked for 'special treatment'. Muslim Apologists love to quote the praiseworthy
statements. They however, fail to reveal what 'nasikh al mansour','al-takiya' or 'muruna' is about.
6-Your trinity concept is not a more superior concept than the
absolute One God that the trinitarians also would want to believe.Your
only claim that Christianity is the truth is that Yeshua is revealing
himself to the Muslims.
The Trinity is not a concept to a Christian. It is simply the conclusion arrived at the evidence
the Bible points too. Why is the Lord complicated? I don't know. Make a generic prayer to the
God of Abraham to reveal himself to you. Yeshua also revealed himself to me in a dream after Parameswara 2 tried a 'sleight of hand' on me. After some prayer, i got an answer. Perhaps, i will share that on another topic.
7-True religion of God must be supported by reason and not
superstition like ‘,yeshua revealing himself to the people’.The creator
of the heavens and the earth is not desperate for us to believe in Him
that he has to come to reveal himself to us.What ever happen to his
people who he has sent to spread the message,all sleeping that God must
do this job himself?
God is not Supernatural? Thats news to me. Raising the Dead, Healing, Parting of the Dead
Sea,Visions, Dreams and Revelations are strewn throughout the Bible. Is that superstition?
No, Yeshua is not desperate for us to believe in Him. He simply, bypasses those Imams,
Mullahs or Ulamas who spread lies, cause suffering, and goes direct. I would, if i was the
Lord and heard the cries of my people.
Iskandar Shah 2 on Tun Dr. Mahathir's Blog Chedet on the Topic
of 'PEMBUNUHAN WANITA BERZINA (Death of an Adulteress)' in
an excerpt remarked that
10-In the meanwhile,when the flow into the religion of one true God
has
become insignificant,the flow out of Muslims of the one true God to
the
‘three-in one’ God instead has now become very significant. Millions
in
Africa and Indonesia are now officially murtads.
My reply in context:
Does Iskandar know why millions of Africans or Indonesians
have found
Yeshua. Its not just disillusionment. Yeshua has begun to appear in dreams to
oppressed Muslims. Those oppressed by their own Brethren. No one preached
to them. They actually seek out Missionaries. Islam’s inner conflict which is
growing exponentially. I’m afraid, if Israel is gone from the middle-east.
Someone else is going to be the scapegoat. I’m
pretty sure it is going to be
Christians. Actually, the Coptics are the
targets now. Lastly, Missionary Work.
Why not? If there is ‘no
compulsion in religion’(Surah 2:256) then one should
be free to freely
leave the faith or is that just a mantra?
Iskandar responded with 11 points which i feel needs to be addressed.
I will list 3 in Part I
1-Dear dtan I am not keen to start a Muslim-Christian dialogue here but I must
respond somehow to you.
Iskandar, I hope you will respond to my invitation on this Blog
2-The only thing you people had succeeded we Muslims has not is the
ability to
get out of the crutches of the church that had kept you in
the dark ages a few
centuries ago -at a time we were the ones
enlightened with a Golden Age just
before our ‘church’ took over.
I am well aware of Ancient Arabic contributions of Algebra and Astronomy
prior to the introduction of Islam
The Church (Chatolic) in the Dark Ages was popularly potrayed as some malignant
'Anti- Science' which could not be further from the truth. Eg. Galileo controversy.
Persecution of Galileo [http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-galileo-controversy]
The Church is not anti-scientific. It has supported scientific
endeavors for centuries.
During Galileo’s time, the Jesuits had a highly
respected group of astronomers and
scientists in Rome. In addition,
many notable scientists received encouragement and
funding from the
Church and from individual Church officials. Many of the scientific
advances during this period were made either by clerics or as a result
of Church funding.
Nicolaus Copernicus dedicated his most famous work, On the Revolution of the Celestial
Orbs,
in which he gave an excellent account of heliocentricity, to Pope Paul
III. Copernicus
entrusted this work to Andreas Osiander, a Lutheran
clergyman who knew that Protestant
reaction to it would be negative,
since Martin Luther seemed to have condemned the new
theory, and, as a
result, the book would be condemned. Osiander wrote a preface to the
book,
in which heliocentrism was presented only as a theory that would
account for the movements
of the planets more simply than geocentrism
did—something Copernicus did not intend.
Ten years prior to Galileo, Johannes Kepler published a
heliocentric work that expanded on Copernicus’ work. As a result, Kepler
also found opposition among his fellow Protestants for his heliocentric
views and found a welcome reception among some Jesuits who were known
for their scientific achievements. #######################################################################
Note, the Vatican has a full time Priest (Phd Canadian Astronomer) who works at the
Vatican Observatory today
3-We Muslims had been kept closed by these self righteous and
insecured religious
authorities who are quick to condemn us to apostacy
the moment we challenge
their wrong practises,like holding on to time
bound secondary documents that not
only may be irrelevant for another
time,it is also doubted to be authentic materials
in the first
place.Without even allowing a fair debate they have condemned these
critical minded people apostates,so that the mainstream will be kept
away from them.
I've brought this issue up with Parameswara 2 in another conversation per Uthmani
standardization of the Quran. Over 200 original manuscripts were torched. The excuse
given that the others were defective. Yet for some reason burning manuscripts are
acceptable. Also, recent discovery of the Sana Manuscripts in Yemen which predate
the Uthmani version under lock and key. Why? Why then claim that the Quran is the
direct revelation i.e. word from God if it was re-written and re-compiled several times?
Christian Apologist Ravi Zacharias answers honest and difficult questions from a
Muslim Arab. Dr Ravi Zacharias is a Canadian-American Bible Scholar (Philosophy). In
the last clip he explains the Trinity. It is very esoteric. However, I would like to point out
what he says at about 5:40. In the Tanakh (Old Testament) God loves and God Speaks
before the Creation. Who did he love? Who was he speaking to before Creation? The
Hebrew word in Genesis for God is 'Elohim' which is a Plural word. The Hebrews believe
in 'Ruach HaKodesh' which is Gods Spirit. This coincides with the Quranic reference
'Roh Kudus' which is defined differently. It also says in the Tanakh that the Messiah will be eternal i.e. existed before time (ancient days).
מִיכָה
א וְאַתָּה בֵּית-לֶחֶם אֶפְרָתָה, צָעִיר לִהְיוֹת בְּאַלְפֵי
יְהוּדָה--מִמְּךָ לִי יֵצֵא, לִהְיוֹת מוֹשֵׁל בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל;
וּמוֹצָאֹתָיו מִקֶּדֶם, מִימֵי עוֹלָם. 1 But thou, Beth-lehem Ephrathah, which art little to be among
the thousands of Judah, out of thee shall one come forth unto Me that is
to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth are from of old, from ancient
days.
~ Micah 5
Pada pemerhatian Tun Dr. Mahathir. Kaum Melayu hanya patut beragama Muslima.
Dengarlah, Lihatlah dan Percayalah. Saudara dan Saudari merentasi laut di-Indonesia
yang bebas untuk mempercaya apa Agama yang ikut sendiri. Saya nak menyata
boleh-lah seorang Perdana Menteri atau Imam atau Ulama di-beri kuasa dari Tuhan
untuk mempengaruhi Agama Rakyat. Memilihuntuk diri sendiri.Perkara-perkara yang keabadianSyurgaatau Neraka.Itu adalahtanggungjawabperibadi anda