Intent
precedes content i would argue. What was the intention of the 'truce'
to
begin with. That is the terminology used (Al Tabari vol 8 [1471]). The definition
often used by Muslims that sealed the fate of the Banu Qurayza and Banu Nadir,
assumes that 'The Prophet' was sovereign to Yathrib to begin with. The word
treason, is used to bend the narrative towards 'The Prophet' It pre-supposes that
he was always in the right. A truce or ceasefire is used to buy time. They the
Quraishi, Banu Nadir and Banu Qurayza lost the battle. Hence, paid the penalty
for losing, nothing more, nothing less. Just because you want to paint it as
treason. Does not make it soo. Why?
Raja Petra a Malaysian dissident, has the best Pro-Islam narrative that i have found.
I will use it as a benchmark to tell you why that is incorrect.
'For example, when some people in Mekah chose to follow Prophet Muhammad
they were terrorised by those who opposed Prophet Muhammad. So they were
forced to leave Mekah and migrate to Medina and other places and soon banded
together into a fighting force to return to Mekah to conquer it by military force. If
these people had just been allowed freedom of religion then the Muslims would not
have turned militant and today. Muslims would not have been groomed into
becoming fighters.'
He proceeds to expound on the acceptable norm of societal rules. I'm using his
benchmark, not mine.
'When I go to your home I need to observe your house rules. If you say I must take
off my shoes then I must take off my shoes. If you say beef or pork is not allowed in
your home then I must not take beef or pork into your home. If you say I must not
insult your race or religion or use four-letter words in your home then I must not do so.
Your home, your rules.'
Mekah was the tribal home of the Qurayshi. 'The Prophet' was not the sovereign of
Mekah. Was he the tribal leader of Mekah . Yes or No ? He stirred the pot by starting
Islam which was against the the Qurayshi norm. Whose home, whose rules ?
If the 'Letter of the Law' is your ultimate benchmark, then i could also quote multiple
precedents. Balfour Declaration, St Remo Conference, Madrid Conference,
Oslo Accords etc, etc, etc. Why then have we not moved closer to peace.
Shall i quote the Hamas Charter ?
Let's be honest. There is a Supernatural Hatred for Jews. My uncle was the
Last Malaysian Jew. He hid his identity from 17 million Muslims even-though he was
no harm to them. Your Hadith and Al-Quran are chalked full of how Evil Jews are. Go
have coffee with Irshad Manji.....
begin with. That is the terminology used (Al Tabari vol 8 [1471]). The definition
often used by Muslims that sealed the fate of the Banu Qurayza and Banu Nadir,
assumes that 'The Prophet' was sovereign to Yathrib to begin with. The word
treason, is used to bend the narrative towards 'The Prophet' It pre-supposes that
he was always in the right. A truce or ceasefire is used to buy time. They the
Quraishi, Banu Nadir and Banu Qurayza lost the battle. Hence, paid the penalty
for losing, nothing more, nothing less. Just because you want to paint it as
treason. Does not make it soo. Why?
Raja Petra a Malaysian dissident, has the best Pro-Islam narrative that i have found.
I will use it as a benchmark to tell you why that is incorrect.
'For example, when some people in Mekah chose to follow Prophet Muhammad
they were terrorised by those who opposed Prophet Muhammad. So they were
forced to leave Mekah and migrate to Medina and other places and soon banded
together into a fighting force to return to Mekah to conquer it by military force. If
these people had just been allowed freedom of religion then the Muslims would not
have turned militant and today. Muslims would not have been groomed into
becoming fighters.'
He proceeds to expound on the acceptable norm of societal rules. I'm using his
benchmark, not mine.
'When I go to your home I need to observe your house rules. If you say I must take
off my shoes then I must take off my shoes. If you say beef or pork is not allowed in
your home then I must not take beef or pork into your home. If you say I must not
insult your race or religion or use four-letter words in your home then I must not do so.
Your home, your rules.'
Mekah was the tribal home of the Qurayshi. 'The Prophet' was not the sovereign of
Mekah. Was he the tribal leader of Mekah . Yes or No ? He stirred the pot by starting
Islam which was against the the Qurayshi norm. Whose home, whose rules ?
If the 'Letter of the Law' is your ultimate benchmark, then i could also quote multiple
precedents. Balfour Declaration, St Remo Conference, Madrid Conference,
Oslo Accords etc, etc, etc. Why then have we not moved closer to peace.
Shall i quote the Hamas Charter ?
Let's be honest. There is a Supernatural Hatred for Jews. My uncle was the
Last Malaysian Jew. He hid his identity from 17 million Muslims even-though he was
no harm to them. Your Hadith and Al-Quran are chalked full of how Evil Jews are. Go
have coffee with Irshad Manji.....
first
of all i don't read all of you're topic it contains a lot of events and
i don't follow
it lets start step by step . here is the history of Medina and you are alright it was an
oases for Jews, they were expecting coming of our prophet from mecca , this is the
encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina
read the history, when you read it we will complete
it lets start step by step . here is the history of Medina and you are alright it was an
oases for Jews, they were expecting coming of our prophet from mecca , this is the
encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina
read the history, when you read it we will complete
second
thing . I am not talking about a law of human . the law of human is
always
short of aspects that dose not prevent any thief or criminal to do his crime again,
when we talk about a permanent punishment . this is what iam looking for , the
punishment that prevent not only the thief or the criminal but also the total community
to do these action again when you see the penalties of it . which creates a community
take in his mind that if i do this crime i will get big punishment, for it .
short of aspects that dose not prevent any thief or criminal to do his crime again,
when we talk about a permanent punishment . this is what iam looking for , the
punishment that prevent not only the thief or the criminal but also the total community
to do these action again when you see the penalties of it . which creates a community
take in his mind that if i do this crime i will get big punishment, for it .
our
prophet was not the leader of kurysh like you said he was from tribe
inside mecca
which has a good position inside mecca, he did not choose to be a prophet of god ,
god chose him and tell him to inform people about this message
which has a good position inside mecca, he did not choose to be a prophet of god ,
god chose him and tell him to inform people about this message
he
was known inside mecca as a most sincere and the most reliable man in
mecca. if any
one inside mecca had a deposit or any materials want to keep he went to him and kept it
with him. man like this who would not ever lie to people , would lie to our mighty god
? read about the way of life of our prophet before and after islam
one inside mecca had a deposit or any materials want to keep he went to him and kept it
with him. man like this who would not ever lie to people , would lie to our mighty god
? read about the way of life of our prophet before and after islam
he
did not impose Islam to any people inside mecca and any one in Medina
all
of people believed in him after they find the truth of god message and the miracles
he did by helping of our god , every one who our prophet asked our god to guide
him, he converted to Islam, any one who ask our mighty god to do any thing
against him. simply he died. if he knew that he is the prophet of god why did not
say any thing about this message before 40 years old? . before this time he was not
participating in any debate in any kind and he was not participation in Arabic poetry
and he never red a book of any previous religion because he is unlearned ( cant read
and write ) . when he said i am a prophet the most beautiful Arabic poetry came out
of his mouth, no one from kurysh could able said a single world about the event
happened before and mentioned in kuran. and every thing he said would come after
( prediction of events ), simply it came.
of people believed in him after they find the truth of god message and the miracles
he did by helping of our god , every one who our prophet asked our god to guide
him, he converted to Islam, any one who ask our mighty god to do any thing
against him. simply he died. if he knew that he is the prophet of god why did not
say any thing about this message before 40 years old? . before this time he was not
participating in any debate in any kind and he was not participation in Arabic poetry
and he never red a book of any previous religion because he is unlearned ( cant read
and write ) . when he said i am a prophet the most beautiful Arabic poetry came out
of his mouth, no one from kurysh could able said a single world about the event
happened before and mentioned in kuran. and every thing he said would come after
( prediction of events ), simply it came.
read
about his wife ( Safiyya bint Huyayy ) who was a Jewish and chose the
islam
and when he gave here a choice between staying on Judaism and got here free to
follow here tribe. or convert to Islam and get married of him she chose to get
married of him and converting to Islam. this is the site
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safiyya_bint_Huyayy
and when he gave here a choice between staying on Judaism and got here free to
follow here tribe. or convert to Islam and get married of him she chose to get
married of him and converting to Islam. this is the site
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safiyya_bint_Huyayy
in the end i thanks god you were not there maybe if you were there you would
kill our prophet like you always do
kill our prophet like you always do
coffee
with irshad , she is not someone proud to be with . if she talks about
here
religion like this and she said i love allah ( elahoeem ). i am afraid to take some
of here thoughts as an approach of my life and my children life
religion like this and she said i love allah ( elahoeem ). i am afraid to take some
of here thoughts as an approach of my life and my children life
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