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Tuesday, 7 July 2015

Cowards in the face of Islam Part IV


D Tan
Jun 15, 2015

Intent precedes content i would argue. What was the intention of the 'truce' to
begin with. That is the terminology used (Al Tabari vol 8 [1471]). The definition 
often used by Muslims  that sealed the fate of the Banu Qurayza and Banu Nadir, 
assumes that 'The Prophet' was sovereign to Yathrib to begin with. The word 
treason, is used to bend the narrative towards  'The Prophet' It pre-supposes  that
he was always in the right. A truce or ceasefire is used to buy time.  They the 
Quraishi, Banu Nadir and Banu Qurayza lost the battle. Hence, paid  the penalty 
for losing, nothing more, nothing less. Just because you want to paint it as
 treason. Does not make it soo. Why?

Raja Petra a Malaysian dissident, has the best Pro-Islam narrative that i have found. 
I will  use it as a benchmark to tell you why that is incorrect.

 'For example, when some people in Mekah chose to follow Prophet Muhammad 
they were terrorised by those who opposed Prophet Muhammad. So they were 
forced to leave Mekah and migrate to Medina and other places and soon banded 
together into a fighting force to return to Mekah to conquer it by military force. If 
these people had just been allowed freedom of religion then the Muslims would not 
have turned militant and today.  Muslims would not have been groomed into 
becoming fighters.'

He proceeds to expound on the acceptable norm of societal rules. I'm using his 
benchmark,  not mine.

'When I go to your home I need to observe your house rules. If you say I must take 
off my shoes then I must take off my shoes. If you say beef or pork is not allowed in 
your home then I must not take beef or pork into your home. If you say I must not 
insult your race or religion or use four-letter words in your home then I must not do so.

Your home, your rules.'

Mekah was the tribal home of the Qurayshi. 'The Prophet' was not the sovereign of
Mekah. Was he the tribal leader of Mekah . Yes or No ? He stirred the pot by starting 
Islam which was against the the Qurayshi norm.  Whose home, whose rules ?

If the 'Letter of the Law' is your ultimate benchmark, then i could also quote multiple
 precedents. Balfour Declaration, St Remo Conference, Madrid Conference, 
Oslo Accords  etc, etc, etc. Why then have we not moved closer to peace.
Shall i quote the Hamas Charter ?

Let's be honest. There is a Supernatural Hatred for Jews. My uncle was the
Last Malaysian Jew. He hid his identity from 17 million Muslims even-though he was
no harm to them. Your Hadith and Al-Quran are chalked full of how Evil Jews are. Go
have coffee with Irshad Manji.....
 



first of all i don't read all of you're topic it contains a lot of events and i don't follow
it lets start step by step . here is the history of Medina and you are alright it was an 
oases for Jews, they were expecting coming of our prophet from mecca , this is the 
encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina

read the history, when you read it we will complete  
 





second thing . I am not talking about a law of human . the law of human is always
short of aspects that dose not  prevent any thief or criminal to do his crime again, 
when we talk about a permanent punishment . this is what iam looking for , the
punishment that prevent not only the thief or the criminal but also the total community 
to do these action again when  you see the penalties of it . which creates a community 
take in his mind  that if i do this crime i will get big punishment, for it .  




our prophet was not the leader of kurysh like you said he was from tribe inside mecca 
which has a good position inside mecca, he did not choose to be a prophet of god , 
god chose him and tell him to inform people about this message





he was known inside mecca as a most sincere and the most reliable man in mecca. if any 
one inside mecca had a deposit or any materials want to keep he went to him and kept it 
with him. man like this who would not ever lie to people , would lie to our mighty god
? read about the way of life of our prophet before and after islam
 




he did not impose Islam to any people inside mecca and any one in Medina all
of people believed in him after they find the truth of god message and the miracles
he did by helping of our god , every one who our prophet asked our god to guide
him,  he converted to Islam, any one who ask our mighty god to do any thing 
against him. simply he died. if he knew that he is the prophet of god why did not 
say any thing about this message before 40 years old? . before this time he was not
participating in any debate in any kind and he was not participation in Arabic poetry 
and he never red a book of any previous religion because he is unlearned ( cant read 
and write ) . when he said i am a prophet the most beautiful Arabic poetry came out 
of his mouth, no one from kurysh could able said a single world about the  event
 happened before and mentioned in kuran. and every thing he said would come after
 ( prediction of events ), simply it came. 
  




read about his wife  ( Safiyya bint Huyayy ) who was a Jewish and chose the islam 
and when he gave here a choice between staying on Judaism and got here free to 
follow here tribe. or convert to Islam and get married of him she chose to get
 married of him and converting to Islam. this is the site
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safiyya_bint_Huyayy  







in the end i thanks god you were not there maybe if you were there  you would
kill our prophet  like you always do






coffee with irshad , she is not someone proud to be with . if she talks about here 
religion like this  and she said i love allah ( elahoeem ). i am afraid to take some
of here thoughts as an approach  of my life and my children life


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