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Wednesday, 22 July 2015

Cowards in the face of Islam Part VI







Keep on laughing......... You are the ones that claimed the connection to Judaism 
and Isa-al-Masih was your prophet.

i am not laughing at him like my god prophet and you'res prophet i believe in him 
like only a prophet not a god walking on earth , he didn't  choose himself to be a 
prophet only mighty god chose him to be a messenger of god nothing more, read 
the history of prophets . god never send a messenger just only after people turn to 
worship  some one else with him like Jews when they claimed ( auziar ) is the 
son of god also , then mighty god sent Jesus to warn them . when  Christians 
claimed Jesus is the son of god , he sent mohamed , to tell people on earth , 
there is only one mighty god has no sons and nothing like him no matter what you 
do to imagine him , he is not like any body    






if you don't convince please dont send me again





by the way , there is a prophecy in our prophet speech he said, i quot " god
will complete this religion like the day and the night come and go back
over the nations , and every home in the world will has some one Muslim
inside it, whither you agree or disagree , and wait for that time " . i dont
care about who is wining the nobil prize . in our religion the only one who
is wining the one who eventually go to heaven, at that time mighty god gives
each person a book of his work ( worshiping him, good deed or bad deed )
by his own hand no one with him, in the end if the Jews control this
nobel prize , it is being sure that they will get the biggest number of awards.
 lets them have it , we are busy in something else

 best wishes    

    



D Tan
Yesterday 1:27 AM
Take a few deep breaths Mohmaed. If you read the New Testament.
 Isa-Al-Masih never said he was the Son of GOD DIRECTLY. That
is absolutely true.

 Others claimed he was the Son of God. Demons who were afraid of
him, the Apostle Peter, God as witnessed by others through his
transfiguration. It doesn't bother me if you find it hard to believe in
the statements Christians make.

   He however referred to himself at least 7X as ' I AM'. I AM.......
'bread of life',  'resurrection and the life',  'the true vine, 'way, truth and
the life', 'Good Sheppard', 'the door' , 'light of the world'.

   What you and all Muslims have to wrestle with is the repeated
'I AM' statements. The Romans nailed ' The King of the Jews' to his
Cross. If Muslims hate Jews according to your scriptures. And he is
the 'The King of the Jews'. What is going to be the outcome at the
End of Days

 Shalom and be complete and whole in HIS HANDS the Great 'I AM'.





do you know what, see you later , worship any thing you want . it is 
not my business go to the heaven or to the hell  don't replay any more . 
do you know what, Jesus was there when they compose the new 
testimony? do you worship Jesus like god ?do you swear by 
jesus ( ohhhh my jesus) ? if you do one of these things, will lead you 
to hell because you worship someone else with mighty god , after that
 i don't care .stop chatting with me coze i don't care about you're 
fucking religion


 


D Tan
Yesterday 11:40 AM

Kol a'am wa antom Bekhair ........




we eta b'lf 7'eer i hope you have a good ramdan try it , its an opportunity
 to try it just one day ,
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Wednesday, 15 July 2015

Cowards in the face of Islam Part V

D Tan
Jun 17, 2015
 You said ' The Prophet' was a nice man according to Islamic tradition. I agree, 
he was nice to Muslims. And Muslims imply he was nice to others. No 3rd party 
corroboration. I have as much right to question the sources as you have saying 
the Bible is corrupted. If the Bible is corrupted, what is the non-corrupted scriptures, 
that tie to 'The Prophet' isnaq

 Here in lies the conundrum. He said he created a Holy Book from God. Those around 
him, non Muslims asked for proof. It is the only documented evidence directly from 
his mouth. These were the Nasara's and/or Yahudi. That is the only benchmark that i 
can attest to

 [29:50]   They said, "If only miracles could come down to him from his Lord!" Say, 
"All miracles come only from GOD; I am no more than a manifest warner." 
~ Surah 29:50

 So if miracles come from God, he is a prophet that cannot make any miracles.
 Isa-al-Masih was a miracle maker. He touched, spoke and even those who touched 
him were healed. What does that make him ?

 My God says unless you believe in the 'I AM' (YHWH) his name you will
die in your Sins.

 That is why I said that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe
that I AM who I claim to be, you will die in your sins." ~ John 8:24

 If you truly love God and want to know him. My God is a Supernatural God. Pray to 
the God of Abraham tonight, and ask him to reveal himself to you.
do you want me to believe in Jesus as a god okay and he did many miracles not with 
the help of his father in the heaven. can i ask you this when the Jesus  was a baby boy 
who was changing his diaper ( because he is god maybe the father in heaven send him 
a pampers to the earth, he is god and can do anything )or( maybe he was not shitting 
or being, the miracle of non shitting  ) do you think any body's god needs someone else
 help even so his mother. by the way the miracles of our prophet still coming day after 
day and i prove it by my own hand with you're new technology, 
Did i ask you to believe in what i said directly ? Or did i ask you to ask God to 
reveal himself directly? If someone calls himself a prophet and cannot proof ,
by miracle or prophecy who he is. Is he telling the truth? If science is the 
benchmark. All Muslim countries are far back compared to jewish discoveries. 
So keep bragging how pious Muslim nations are and how advanced they are.......





i will tell you what, this is an out meaning conversation starting with Jews transform
 to Christianity and Jesus then came back to same topic , loooooooooook man . i am 
totally content with what i am worshiping and i love my religion soo much and i  think 
you are . read about Mohamed miraculous you find over you tube . please dont replay
 again, bye this is the last thing you will here of me "  Have him in circles" looooooooooool
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Tuesday, 7 July 2015

Cowards in the face of Islam Part IV


D Tan
Jun 15, 2015

Intent precedes content i would argue. What was the intention of the 'truce' to
begin with. That is the terminology used (Al Tabari vol 8 [1471]). The definition 
often used by Muslims  that sealed the fate of the Banu Qurayza and Banu Nadir, 
assumes that 'The Prophet' was sovereign to Yathrib to begin with. The word 
treason, is used to bend the narrative towards  'The Prophet' It pre-supposes  that
he was always in the right. A truce or ceasefire is used to buy time.  They the 
Quraishi, Banu Nadir and Banu Qurayza lost the battle. Hence, paid  the penalty 
for losing, nothing more, nothing less. Just because you want to paint it as
 treason. Does not make it soo. Why?

 Raja Petra a Malaysian dissident, has the best Pro-Islam narrative that i have found. 
I will  use it as a benchmark to tell you why that is incorrect.

 'For example, when some people in Mekah chose to follow Prophet Muhammad 
they were terrorised by those who opposed Prophet Muhammad. So they were 
forced to leave Mekah and migrate to Medina and other places and soon banded 
together into a fighting force to return to Mekah to conquer it by military force. If 
these people had just been allowed freedom of religion then the Muslims would not 
have turned militant and today.  Muslims would not have been groomed into 
becoming fighters.'

 He proceeds to expound on the acceptable norm of societal rules. I'm using his 
benchmark,  not mine.

 'When I go to your home I need to observe your house rules. If you say I must take 
off my shoes then I must take off my shoes. If you say beef or pork is not allowed in 
your home then I must not take beef or pork into your home. If you say I must not 
insult your race or religion or use four-letter words in your home then I must not do so.

 Your home, your rules.'

Mekah was the tribal home of the Qurayshi. 'The Prophet' was not the sovereign of
Mekah. Was he the tribal leader of Mekah . Yes or No ? He stirred the pot by starting 
Islam which was against the the Qurayshi norm.  Whose home, whose rules ?

 If the 'Letter of the Law' is your ultimate benchmark, then i could also quote multiple
 precedents. Balfour Declaration, St Remo Conference, Madrid Conference, 
Oslo Accords  etc, etc, etc. Why then have we not moved closer to peace.
Shall i quote the Hamas Charter ?

 Let's be honest. There is a Supernatural Hatred for Jews. My uncle was the
Last Malaysian Jew. He hid his identity from 17 million Muslims even-though he was
no harm to them. Your Hadith and Al-Quran are chalked full of how Evil Jews are. Go
have coffee with Irshad Manji.....
 



first of all i don't read all of you're topic it contains a lot of events and i don't follow
it lets start step by step . here is the history of Medina and you are alright it was an 
oases for Jews, they were expecting coming of our prophet from mecca , this is the 
encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina

 read the history, when you read it we will complete  
 





second thing . I am not talking about a law of human . the law of human is always
short of aspects that dose not  prevent any thief or criminal to do his crime again, 
when we talk about a permanent punishment . this is what iam looking for , the
punishment that prevent not only the thief or the criminal but also the total community 
to do these action again when  you see the penalties of it . which creates a community 
take in his mind  that if i do this crime i will get big punishment, for it .  




our prophet was not the leader of kurysh like you said he was from tribe inside mecca 
which has a good position inside mecca, he did not choose to be a prophet of god , 
god chose him and tell him to inform people about this message





he was known inside mecca as a most sincere and the most reliable man in mecca. if any 
one inside mecca had a deposit or any materials want to keep he went to him and kept it 
with him. man like this who would not ever lie to people , would lie to our mighty god
? read about the way of life of our prophet before and after islam
 




he did not impose Islam to any people inside mecca and any one in Medina all
of people believed in him after they find the truth of god message and the miracles
he did by helping of our god , every one who our prophet asked our god to guide
him,  he converted to Islam, any one who ask our mighty god to do any thing 
against him. simply he died. if he knew that he is the prophet of god why did not 
say any thing about this message before 40 years old? . before this time he was not
participating in any debate in any kind and he was not participation in Arabic poetry 
and he never red a book of any previous religion because he is unlearned ( cant read 
and write ) . when he said i am a prophet the most beautiful Arabic poetry came out 
of his mouth, no one from kurysh could able said a single world about the  event
 happened before and mentioned in kuran. and every thing he said would come after
 ( prediction of events ), simply it came. 
  




read about his wife  ( Safiyya bint Huyayy ) who was a Jewish and chose the islam 
and when he gave here a choice between staying on Judaism and got here free to 
follow here tribe. or convert to Islam and get married of him she chose to get
 married of him and converting to Islam. this is the site
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safiyya_bint_Huyayy  







in the end i thanks god you were not there maybe if you were there  you would
kill our prophet  like you always do






coffee with irshad , she is not someone proud to be with . if she talks about here 
religion like this  and she said i love allah ( elahoeem ). i am afraid to take some
of here thoughts as an approach  of my life and my children life


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Saturday, 4 July 2015

Cowards in the face of Islam Part III







The battle of the Trench (Al-Khandak) ? Prior to that battle he was accepted into
Yathrib (Medina) after he fled Mecca. Yathrib was a Jewish Oasis to begin with. 
He was already an outcast. His tribe the Qurayshi, wanted him dead, because he 
got into the god business. There were already 360 idols in the Kaaba. His version 
of the 'Chief Allah' rubbed them the wrong way. They, the Banu Qurayza made 
a mistake by signing a treaty with that outcast by his own tribe. It is interesting 
that you call it treason because my definition of Islamic treaty called 'hudnah' is
 a ceasefire.

 Besides it is clearly written in the Hadith that Ka'bb (Banu Qurayza Tribe Leader)
 was reluctant to engage with Huyayy ibn Akhtab (Banu Nadir Tribe Leader) .
 Huyyay, wanted him gone, i agree, from the start. So did the Quraysh Tribe 
(Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, leader of the Quraysh army, is said to have called on
 Hubal (his god) for support to gain victory in their next battle, saying 
"Show your superiority, Hubal" ~ Battle of Badr). So making it sound like Jews
had something sinister about them. Is a little stupid, considering his family, the
 Qurayshi wanted him dead also. The Banu Qurayza were a farming tribe not
 marauders.

 The enemy of God Huyayy b. Aktab went out and came to Ka'bb. Asad al-Qurazu
 who was the possessor of the treaty and covenant of the Banu Qurayzah. Ka'b 
had made a truce with the Messenger of God for his people, making a contract 
and covenant with him on it. When Ka'b heard Huyayy b. Akhtab, he shut his 
fortress in his face. Huyayy asked to be allowed in, but Ka'b refused 
to open to him.

 ~ Al Tabari vol 8 [1471]

 Are you telling me, Islamic history is lying ? Does it sound like the leader of the
 Banu Qurayza is after 'The Prophet' ? Is a farmer out to murder a tribal warlord 
such as the likes of the 'The Prophet' ? I don't think i'm too far out on my analysis.....



 






too many topics and too many names like usual ending with insulting to our prophet . 
just i need time to replay, because i am busy here with my own business 







just one Q can you speak Hebrew?






first of all . the meaning of treaty .depends on the content of it , one of the condition
 inside these treaty with ( bano kunaynaka' , bano alnazeer , and bano kuryadah ) ,
 was helping people against any outsiders attack almadeenah, not allied with them 
against almadeenah people , and that what they did in trench battle. this is the first Q . 
 you can read the conditions of these treaty in any site you find. and i will give you 
this site to read about the history of Medina in this site and how did the Jews tribes
 inside Medina were expecting the coming of our prophet from Mecca . because its
 mentioned in you're holy books which is changed over time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina
   




another events you mentioned are not coherent to me . and if we presume its a true . 
i think i have a treaty and you broke it , when you allied with people who conquered
 median and let them inter it from you're side , you could simply close you're 
fort doors against the enemy , but you did not , and accepted the penalties of this 
action from man who was allied with Jews ( sa'ad eben moath ) . and you deserve 
exile and killing , because. if our prophet did not do that you would keep allying 
with others to tear down the community inside Medina , any action has its penalties, 
and you chose the man who imposed on you. the treason in you're blood man, 
god creates you like that you can't change it . whether you are a king or farmer, 
read about the Jewish man who was the neighbor of our prophet and kept through
 his garbage on our prophet home door, read about the Jewish people who passed
 over our prophet and kept insulting him , all these event prove to you that its 
not safe to keep you in the same community with Muslims          
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