My Bud KT from Ayer Hitam Penang raises an interesting conundrum.
Per my reply
Lost Gospels ? or rehashed Gnostic Documents. They've been around forever,
claiming secret knowledge, and contradicting the Cannon.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gnostics.html
as Bart Erhman himself says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myqo2BrGka4
Best not to quote, a reference that supports your view points,
who also agrees that these Gnostics claimed, Secret Bull Shit knowledge...
Pardon my french.....
Thanks K.T for the article. Inspiration for my next blog article......
hands, put my fingers into them, and place my hand into the wound
in his side.”
26 Eight days later the disciples were together again, and this time
Thomas was with them. The doors were locked; but suddenly, as
before, Jesus was standing among them. “Peace be with you,”
he said. 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and
look at my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side.
Don’t be faithless any longer. Believe!” ~ John 20 NLT
Why are Gnostic writings erroneous to me. Simply, we cannot establish
a chain that connects any of the writings to the original Apostles. The
content contradicts and establishes a different pattern of thought
i.e. denies the incarnation etc
Case in point the 'Gospel of Judas'. Can someone explain to me
how someone who commits suicide apon the the Crucifixion of Yeshua
was able to pass on intimate Secret .... Knowledge to his supposed
followers of scribers. It took decades to compile the original writings
of the Apostles. However, someone who commits suicide so soon upon
the Crucifixion event is able to divulge information that required
painstaking amount, hundreds of hours of transcribing, on leather
parchment. This lends more credence by Dr. Bart Erhman as acceptable
, whereas contextual errors in copies of original manuscripts of the New
Testament, must be relegated to disputed at the very least. That is like
saying if i build a jet engine of a hardened titanium component to
6 Sigma Standards i.e. 3.5 dpmo and i find 3 defects i should throw
away the other over 999 thousand parts. Whereas, if the part were
made of playdough with 0 defects. Eureka, let's get on that jet plane
In his Blog KTemoc Konsiders, Different gospels, different stories
He raises a very valid point. Here he highlights supposedly lost gospels
that was not included in the Canonization of the Christian Bible.
Per my reply
Lost Gospels ? or rehashed Gnostic Documents. They've been around forever,
claiming secret knowledge, and contradicting the Cannon.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gnostics.html
as Bart Erhman himself says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myqo2BrGka4
Best not to quote, a reference that supports your view points,
who also agrees that these Gnostics claimed, Secret Bull Shit knowledge...
Pardon my french.....
Thanks K.T for the article. Inspiration for my next blog article......
KTemoc1:29 pm, March 09, 2015
Secret Bull Shit knowledge - which ones? The mainstream bible or
the Gnostic gospels, or both
Gnostic writings appeared in the 1st and 2nd century seemingly
to contradict or add to, erroneous heretical information on Christianity
to contradict or add to, erroneous heretical information on Christianity
I can't speak directly as to the authenticity of those writings. However,
as someone who believes that Yeshua himself was not against empiricism
i.e. verifiable knowledge or experience. After all, he told Thomas to
put his hand in the wound in his side.
24 One of the twelve disciples, Thomas (nicknamed the Twin),[c] was
not with the others when Jesus came. 25 They told him,
“We have seen the Lord!”
But
he replied, “I won’t believe it unless I see the nail wounds in his hands, put my fingers into them, and place my hand into the wound
in his side.”
26 Eight days later the disciples were together again, and this time
Thomas was with them. The doors were locked; but suddenly, as
before, Jesus was standing among them. “Peace be with you,”
he said. 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and
look at my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side.
Don’t be faithless any longer. Believe!” ~ John 20 NLT
Why are Gnostic writings erroneous to me. Simply, we cannot establish
a chain that connects any of the writings to the original Apostles. The
content contradicts and establishes a different pattern of thought
i.e. denies the incarnation etc
Case in point the 'Gospel of Judas'. Can someone explain to me
how someone who commits suicide apon the the Crucifixion of Yeshua
was able to pass on intimate Secret .... Knowledge to his supposed
followers of scribers. It took decades to compile the original writings
of the Apostles. However, someone who commits suicide so soon upon
the Crucifixion event is able to divulge information that required
painstaking amount, hundreds of hours of transcribing, on leather
parchment. This lends more credence by Dr. Bart Erhman as acceptable
, whereas contextual errors in copies of original manuscripts of the New
Testament, must be relegated to disputed at the very least. That is like
saying if i build a jet engine of a hardened titanium component to
6 Sigma Standards i.e. 3.5 dpmo and i find 3 defects i should throw
away the other over 999 thousand parts. Whereas, if the part were
made of playdough with 0 defects. Eureka, let's get on that jet plane
Hey, there is a broken link in this article, under the anchor text - Gospel of Judas
ReplyDeleteHere is the working link so you can replace it - https://selectra.co.uk/sites/selectra.co.uk/files/pdf/GospelofJudas.pdf