Is my View of Islam Distorted ?

I would like to highlight a posting (Regime Change) on Dr. Mahathir's
website chedet made by Amin Tan per my ignorance on Islam, and
Amin's reply. I am perplexed by his answer. The reason is, his answer
does not reflect what the actual reality is, per attached picture. Therein
lies the conundrum. The answers, i get from different Muslims are
Non-Sequitor.

Dear Tun,
Please allow me to quote Mr dtan as below,
[tan
September 30, 2013 at 11:24 PM | Permalink

Tun,

Per Amin Tan and Sentinel3

I’ve been to a Synagogue. I’ve heard Rabbi’s preach not by
special invitation.

Why can’t a normal person visit a Mosque on a normal day, to
listen to a normal sermon. Why does it have to be a special
invitation? None of my Muslim friends have ever given me an
open invitation to a Mosque. I’ve seen advertising’s on special
invitations to non-muslims, only for special occasions. What do
they talk about during the other times. Whereas, i’ve given my
friends (Muslims, Buddhists, etc) an open invitation to come
anytime they please during regularly scheduled Church services.
It is similar with the local Synagogues in the city i live in.
I’ve read the Quran including several commentaries by Karen
Armstrong and Ali Akhbar pro-islamic writers. I’ve conversed with
a Sunni (Lebanese Engineer) in depth to compare and contrast the
Bible and Quran. Also, close conversations with a Shiite
(Design Engineer). Hung around Malay friends asked questions on
Islam in Malaysia. I don’t claim to be an Expert on Islam but i
certainly can claim i’ve been around Muslims most of my life and
know how they behave and what they believe. What is your
experience on Christianity? The reason why i like Muslim Apologist
Shabir Ali is because he understands Christianity on a personal
level i.e. has read the Bible, commentaries on both sides of the
fence and has openly debated Christian Apologists from a wide
spectrum.

I don’t make the blanket statement that Christianity is a Religion
of Peace but certainly Yeshua (Jesus) never murdered, killed or
ordered, implied, suggested the killing of non-believers in
self-defence or whatever (~ Love your Enemy. Matthew 5:44). It is
Islam that is making the blanket statement that it is a
Religion of Peace.
 
Shalom in Yeshua’s name

Dear Mr. dtan,
 
Now you sound a bit conciliatory and not so as arrogant as in the earlier 
comment.
 
1. Invitation to a mosque. Anybody can go into a mosque as long as you 
observe certain dress code and etiquette. There are tourists and visitors 
almost daily visiting Masjid Negara and Masjid Putrajaya.
 
2. For a muslim masjid is a holy place for prayer, normally the 5 times daily 
solat. When a muslim enters a masjid for prayer, he must cover his aurat and 
have ablution or wuduk meaning wash himself properly. Before he sits down 
it is conventional that he performs tahyatul masjid 2 rakaat. Muslims don’t sit 
on a chair, unless medically need to, to pray. Everybody sits on the floor row 
after row. Masjid is not a place to chit chat or talking out loud as to disturb 
others’ concentration in prayer. During Friday sermon(kutbah), the imam must 
follow set procedure and has to stick to verses from the Quran. Of course, some 
imams stray into politically sensitive domain of Hudud. On the whole Friday 
sermon is a session to urge Muslims to do good and be charitable and do not do 
evils(amal maarof nahi mungkar) with the rewards and retribution in the hereafter.

3. salam, islam means peace in arabic. If there is a civil war in Syria which happens
 to be a Muslim majority country, it is a distortion or manipulation of the worst kind 
to say islam promote killing and murders among their own kind.

4. All these while, you have wrong impression and perception of islam and the Malays.
 45 years ago, in 1969, after my HSC, I went to a state government scholarship interview
 with a Malay classmate in Kota Bharu Kelantan which was under PAS government. I 
was given rm500 bursary and the Malay classmate did not get anything although we 
both got about similar results and admitted into University Malaya, the only university 
 in the country then, because his family was wealthier than mine, even though I was a 
non Muslim Chinese then. Tak kenal maka tak cinta. Wallahu alam.
 
amin tan

 There are, Closed Sessions, for Muslim Believers at the National Mosque in Kuala Lumpur

and i can certainly understand why an Imam's sermon maybe for Muslims only. 
At least, until the Christian (Nasara) or Jew (Yahudi) convert has been properly 
distilled into Islamic Jurisprudence .

As a roaring lion

Yeshua describes Heaven in a Parable as a King's Banquet of invited guests. Many
ignore the invitation. Some, even seize and murder his messengers. Interestingly,
i've never paid attention to this specific verse in this paragraph.

11 “But when the king came in to meet the guests, he noticed a man who wasn’t wearing
the proper clothes for a wedding. 12 ‘Friend,’ he asked, ‘how is it that you are here without
wedding clothes?’ But the man had no reply. 13 Then the king said to his aides, ‘Bind his
hands and feet and throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and
gnashing of teeth.’
14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”  ~ Matthew 22:1-14 NLT

Why is it? This man is not properly adorned for this wedding. The penalty, hence, this
person is cast out from Heaven.


John the Revelator mentions about the Believer who overcomes, and thus is clothed
in white and not erased from the Book of Life (Revelation 3:5)

5 All who are victorious will be clothed in white. I will never erase their names from the
Book of Life, but I will announce before my Father and his angels that they are mine.
~ Revelation 3:5

The passage, to me, is a little vague. Does it mean, if one does not overcome, one's
name is Blothed Out or is the emphasis on ' I will never erase their names from the
Book of Life'.

Matthew's passage, however, mentions two conditions involved in attending his Banquet.
Firstly, to Accept the Masters Invitation. Secondly, to be Properly Dressed. It is the Second
condition that threw me off.

Two passages that sticks out in my mind is 1 Peter 5 and Ephesians 6


8 Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion,
 looking for someone to devour. ~ 1 Peter 5:8


10 A final word: Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on all of God’s armour
 so that you will be able to stand firm against all strategies of the devil. 12 For we[c] are not 
fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen 
world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore, put on every piece of God’s armour so you will be able to resist the enemy in the
 time of evil. Then after the battle you will still be standing firm. 14 Stand your ground, putting
 on the belt of truth and the body armour of God’s righteousness. 15 For shoes, put on the 
peace that comes from the Good News so that you will be fully prepared.[d] 16 In addition to 
all of these, hold up the shield of faith to stop the fiery arrows of the devil.[e] 17 Put on 
salvation as your helmet, and take the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 
~ Ephesians 6:13-17


Put on the Armour of God. It is impossible, without it, to be properly prepared to overcome
the Second Death. This Devouring is not a Physical but a Spiritual One !!!

Addendum:

I had a dream last night. I think this message is for Sentinel3 a blogger on Tun Dr. Mahathir's
Blog Chedet. In my dream, i saw a man who lived in a trailer park in squalid conditions. He
was a miserable and a neglecting father to his son. He went around breaking into cars and
stealing items around the trailer park. What was more insidious, was that he broke into his
own vehicle in order to convince his neighbours that he was also a victim. There is a second
part to this dream which i think was meant for me. Suffice to say, the Lord allows evil for a
season. He also allows lies and deception to go seemingly unnoticed. After that, comes the Judgement.

Kaum Yahudi, Kaum yang Di-Hina (Malay)

Saudara Sentinel3 September 2, 2013 at 9:32 PM dalam Blog
Tun Dr. Mahathir, Chedet membandingkan Ke-Kejam-an. Kaum 
Yahudi dan Negara-Negara Barat sebagai contoh-nya ke-lawanan 
terhadap Masyarakat Muslima. Oleh itu, Ke-Salahan lain, Muslima
di negara-negara timur-tengah dan lain di-pecah.

Tun,
Izinkan menjawab dtan 2 September 2013.
Quote, ” Saya juga mahu Ke-Adilan kepada Kaum Kristian di-timur tengah”.
dtan, jangan cubalah mahu jadi juara bagi kaum Kristian pula setelah kaum
Yahudi menjadi punca musibah dan kecelakaan yang dihadapi oleh bangsa
Arab terutama Palestin di Asia Barat sekarang.
Saya mempunyai seorang rakan Kristian Coptic semasa melawat Mesir suatu
ketika dahulu dan rakan ini ada memberitahu mengenai masalah yang dihadapi
oleh komuniti ini di negara itu.
Bagaimanapun sebarang ketidakadilan yang dihadapi oleh kaum Kristian di Asia
Barat berbanding kekejaman yang dihadapi oleh bangsa Palestin di tangan kaum
Yahudi adalah seperti bumi dan langit.
Pada perang Salib yang pertama, kekejaman yang dilakukan oleh tentera Kristian
terhadap masyarakat Islam di Baitulmuqadis sungguh dahsyat sehingga seorang
daripada soldadu yang menyaksikan kekejaman itu dilaporkan berkata, “Oleh
sebab terlalu banyaknya masyarakat Islam termasuk warga tua, wanita dan
kanak-kanak Islam dibunuh, kaki kami digelinangi darah musuh (Islam) sehingga
ke paras betis kami”.
Agaknya dimanakah kaum Yahudi yang banyak mendapat perlindungan dan rahmat
daripada masyarakat Islam ketika itu?
Pada zaman moden sekarang, di Perancis wanita Islam pakai tudung pun tak boleh
manakala di Belgium dan Belanda, sudahlah masjid dilarang mempunyai reka bentuk
 seperti masjid malah azan pun tidak boleh dilaungkan dan hanya dibenarkan sekali
pada hari Jumaat.
Cuba dtan bayangkan, negara-negara ini adalah negara maju yang memperjuangkan
kebebasan beragama tetapi mengamalkan sikap diskriminasi terhadap agama Islam?
Di Srebrenica, sekrang-kurangnya 8,000 penduduk Islam Bosnia disembelih oleh
tentera Serbia dan hanya setelah mendapat kutukan daripada masyarakat antarabangsa
terhadap sikap membisu negara-negara Barat, baharu AS dan sekutunya mahu bertindak
terhadap tentera Serbia.
Ada seorang penulis Barat dan kolumnya, mencadangkan supaya tentera Serbia
meneruskan kerja-kerja penghapusan etnik mereka dengan segera supaya seperti kata
dtan “nasi sudah jadi bubur” dan tentera negara-negara lain termasuk Islam tidak boleh
berbuat apa-apa lagi bagi membantu penduduk Islam Bosnia.
Oleh itu dtan, apabila kita menuntut keadilan bagi sesuatu pihak jangan kita buat-buat
lupa pula menuntut keadilan bagi pihak lain. Sebelum kita menuduh pihak lain sebagai
kejam lebih elok kita cermin dahulu diri kita dan bertanya “Adakah diri kita bersih
daripada melakukan kesalahan berbanding musuh kita?’.


Kepada Saudara Sentinel3. Saya tidak percaya satu Kaum
lebih Bersih dari Kaum yang lain. Contoh-nya, Ke-Kejam-am kepada
Negara-Negara Barat memang Betul. Tetapi, se-sama itu Kaum Arab
dalam Nama Islam juga di-buat 240 juta orang yang di-musnah-kan
(Armenian,Kurdist,Yahudi, India, lubnan, Mesir, Syria,Afrika, Spaniol,
Iraq, Iran.…). Ke-kejaman Se-Sama Contoh yang di-Beri. Itu Statistik
dan Sejarah yang di-buat dari Doktor. Bill Warner dan juga Doktor.
Mark Gabriel.

Doktor Gabriel semasa laku se-orang Profesor Di-Universiti Al-Azhar.
Nama-nya di-tukar kerana Kaum Arab yang hina kepada-nya kerana
ke-takutan keselamatan jiwa-nya.

Buku Kitab Injil yang mengatakan semua kaum manusia telah berdosa
dan telah jatuh pendek-kan kemuliaan Tuhan.

 1 Jika demikian, apakah kelebihan orang Yahudi dan apakah gunanya sunat?  
2 Banyak sekali, dan di dalam segala hal. Pertama-tama: sebab kepada 
merekalah dipercayakan firman Allah. 3 Jadi bagaimana, jika di antara mereka 
ada yang tidak setia, dapatkah ketidaksetiaan itu membatalkan kesetiaan Allah?
4 Sekali-kali tidak! Sebaliknya: Allah adalah benar, dan semua manusia 
pembohong, seperti ada tertulis: "Supaya Engkau ternyata benar dalam segala 
firman-Mu, dan menang, jika Engkau dihakimi."
5 Tetapi jika ketidakbenaran kita menunjukkan kebenaran Allah, apakah yang 
akan kita katakan? Tidak adilkah Allah--aku berkata sebagai manusia--jika Ia 
menampakkan murka-Nya? 6 Sekali-kali tidak! Andaikata demikian, bagaimanakah
Allah dapat menghakimi dunia? 7 Tetapi jika kebenaran Allah oleh dustaku semakin
melimpah bagi kemuliaan-Nya, mengapa aku masih dihakimi lagi sebagai orang 
berdosa? 8 Bukankah tidak benar fitnahan orang yang mengatakan, bahwa kita 
berkata: "Marilah kita berbuat yang jahat, supaya yang baik timbul dari padanya.
" Orang semacam itu sudah selayaknya mendapat hukuman.
9 Jadi bagaimana? Adakah kita mempunyai kelebihan dari pada orang lain? Sama 
sekali tidak. Sebab di atas telah kita tuduh baik orang Yahudi, maupun orang Yunani, 
bahwa mereka semua ada di bawah kuasa dosa,
10 seperti ada tertulis: "Tidak ada yang benar, seorangpun tidak.
11 Tidak ada seorangpun yang berakal budi, tidak ada seorangpun yang mencari Allah.
12 Semua orang telah menyeleweng, mereka semua tidak berguna, tidak ada yang 
berbuat baik, seorangpun tidak.
13 Kerongkongan mereka seperti kubur yang ternganga, lidah mereka merayu-rayu, 
bibir mereka mengandung bisa.
14 Mulut mereka penuh dengan sumpah serapah,
15 kaki mereka cepat untuk menumpahkan darah.
16 Keruntuhan dan kebinasaan mereka tinggalkan di jalan mereka,
17 dan jalan damai tidak mereka kenal;
18 rasa takut kepada Allah tidak ada pada orang itu."
19 Tetapi kita tahu, bahwa segala sesuatu yang tercantum dalam Kitab Taurat ditujukan 
kepada mereka yang hidup di bawah hukum Taurat, supaya tersumbat setiap mulut dan 
seluruh dunia jatuh ke bawah hukuman Allah. 20 Sebab tidak seorangpun yang dapat 
dibenarkan di hadapan Allah oleh karena melakukan hukum Taurat, karena justru oleh 
hukum Taurat orang mengenal dosa. ~ Roma 3:1-20

 
Kepada sdr wajapoerak, terima kasih atas maklumat anda.
Salam Tun.

Saudara Wajaperak telah berkata bahawa Kaum Yahudi dan Kristian Berdusta.

Apa yang dia mendasarkan dakwaan dari. Al- Quran yang ditulis lebih
lewat daripada teks kertas 'manuscript' Kristian dan Yahudi. Sila nyatakan
sebagai bukti-bukti. Saya terbuka untuk perbincangan dalam Blog saya.