The
battle of the Trench (Al-Khandak) ? Prior to that battle he was
accepted into
Yathrib (Medina) after he fled Mecca. Yathrib was a Jewish Oasis to begin with.
He was already an outcast. His tribe the Qurayshi, wanted him dead, because he
got into the god business. There were already 360 idols in the Kaaba. His version
of the 'Chief Allah' rubbed them the wrong way. They, the Banu Qurayza made
a mistake by signing a treaty with that outcast by his own tribe. It is interesting
that you call it treason because my definition of Islamic treaty called 'hudnah' is
a ceasefire.
Besides it is clearly written in the Hadith that Ka'bb (Banu Qurayza Tribe Leader)
was reluctant to engage with Huyayy ibn Akhtab (Banu Nadir Tribe Leader) .
Huyyay, wanted him gone, i agree, from the start. So did the Quraysh Tribe
(Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, leader of the Quraysh army, is said to have called on
Hubal (his god) for support to gain victory in their next battle, saying
"Show your superiority, Hubal" ~ Battle of Badr). So making it sound like Jews
had something sinister about them. Is a little stupid, considering his family, the
Qurayshi wanted him dead also. The Banu Qurayza were a farming tribe not
marauders.
The enemy of God Huyayy b. Aktab went out and came to Ka'bb. Asad al-Qurazu
who was the possessor of the treaty and covenant of the Banu Qurayzah. Ka'b
had made a truce with the Messenger of God for his people, making a contract
and covenant with him on it. When Ka'b heard Huyayy b. Akhtab, he shut his
fortress in his face. Huyayy asked to be allowed in, but Ka'b refused
to open to him.
~ Al Tabari vol 8 [1471]
Are you telling me, Islamic history is lying ? Does it sound like the leader of the
Banu Qurayza is after 'The Prophet' ? Is a farmer out to murder a tribal warlord
such as the likes of the 'The Prophet' ? I don't think i'm too far out on my analysis.....
Yathrib (Medina) after he fled Mecca. Yathrib was a Jewish Oasis to begin with.
He was already an outcast. His tribe the Qurayshi, wanted him dead, because he
got into the god business. There were already 360 idols in the Kaaba. His version
of the 'Chief Allah' rubbed them the wrong way. They, the Banu Qurayza made
a mistake by signing a treaty with that outcast by his own tribe. It is interesting
that you call it treason because my definition of Islamic treaty called 'hudnah' is
a ceasefire.
Besides it is clearly written in the Hadith that Ka'bb (Banu Qurayza Tribe Leader)
was reluctant to engage with Huyayy ibn Akhtab (Banu Nadir Tribe Leader) .
Huyyay, wanted him gone, i agree, from the start. So did the Quraysh Tribe
(Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, leader of the Quraysh army, is said to have called on
Hubal (his god) for support to gain victory in their next battle, saying
"Show your superiority, Hubal" ~ Battle of Badr). So making it sound like Jews
had something sinister about them. Is a little stupid, considering his family, the
Qurayshi wanted him dead also. The Banu Qurayza were a farming tribe not
marauders.
The enemy of God Huyayy b. Aktab went out and came to Ka'bb. Asad al-Qurazu
who was the possessor of the treaty and covenant of the Banu Qurayzah. Ka'b
had made a truce with the Messenger of God for his people, making a contract
and covenant with him on it. When Ka'b heard Huyayy b. Akhtab, he shut his
fortress in his face. Huyayy asked to be allowed in, but Ka'b refused
to open to him.
~ Al Tabari vol 8 [1471]
Are you telling me, Islamic history is lying ? Does it sound like the leader of the
Banu Qurayza is after 'The Prophet' ? Is a farmer out to murder a tribal warlord
such as the likes of the 'The Prophet' ? I don't think i'm too far out on my analysis.....
too
many topics and too many names like usual ending with insulting to our
prophet .
just i need time to replay, because i am busy here with my own business
just i need time to replay, because i am busy here with my own business
just one Q can you speak Hebrew?
first
of all . the meaning of treaty .depends on the content of it , one of
the condition
inside these treaty with ( bano kunaynaka' , bano alnazeer , and bano kuryadah ) ,
was helping people against any outsiders attack almadeenah, not allied with them
against almadeenah people , and that what they did in trench battle. this is the first Q .
you can read the conditions of these treaty in any site you find. and i will give you
this site to read about the history of Medina in this site and how did the Jews tribes
inside Medina were expecting the coming of our prophet from Mecca . because its
mentioned in you're holy books which is changed over time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina
inside these treaty with ( bano kunaynaka' , bano alnazeer , and bano kuryadah ) ,
was helping people against any outsiders attack almadeenah, not allied with them
against almadeenah people , and that what they did in trench battle. this is the first Q .
you can read the conditions of these treaty in any site you find. and i will give you
this site to read about the history of Medina in this site and how did the Jews tribes
inside Medina were expecting the coming of our prophet from Mecca . because its
mentioned in you're holy books which is changed over time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina
another
events you mentioned are not coherent to me . and if we presume its a
true .
i think i have a treaty and you broke it , when you allied with people who conquered
median and let them inter it from you're side , you could simply close you're
fort doors against the enemy , but you did not , and accepted the penalties of this
action from man who was allied with Jews ( sa'ad eben moath ) . and you deserve
exile and killing , because. if our prophet did not do that you would keep allying
with others to tear down the community inside Medina , any action has its penalties,
and you chose the man who imposed on you. the treason in you're blood man,
god creates you like that you can't change it . whether you are a king or farmer,
read about the Jewish man who was the neighbor of our prophet and kept through
his garbage on our prophet home door, read about the Jewish people who passed
over our prophet and kept insulting him , all these event prove to you that its
not safe to keep you in the same community with Muslims
i think i have a treaty and you broke it , when you allied with people who conquered
median and let them inter it from you're side , you could simply close you're
fort doors against the enemy , but you did not , and accepted the penalties of this
action from man who was allied with Jews ( sa'ad eben moath ) . and you deserve
exile and killing , because. if our prophet did not do that you would keep allying
with others to tear down the community inside Medina , any action has its penalties,
and you chose the man who imposed on you. the treason in you're blood man,
god creates you like that you can't change it . whether you are a king or farmer,
read about the Jewish man who was the neighbor of our prophet and kept through
his garbage on our prophet home door, read about the Jewish people who passed
over our prophet and kept insulting him , all these event prove to you that its
not safe to keep you in the same community with Muslims
